tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927549938621243783.post4731163581502550235..comments2024-01-16T01:05:13.634-08:00Comments on The Inquisitive Loon: The Dark Knight RisesThe Inquisitive Loonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12353365796160933651noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927549938621243783.post-82853400197349831232012-07-28T22:34:56.152-07:002012-07-28T22:34:56.152-07:00I thought the Selina Kyle--I'm going to call h...I thought the Selina Kyle--I'm going to call her that as she wasn't called Catwoman in this movie--"romance" was important to the story. Her redemption at the end of the movie is is indicative of the painful redemption of Gotham. Also, I don't think they made too much of the romance. I thought the Nolans did a good job portraying the attraction between the two characters without making too much of it. I mean, it's not like Alfred goes to Vienna and sees the two of them making out. It's just coffee!!<br /><br />I think as a good conservative, I like this movie the best of the three. Order over chaos. Huzzah!Jefehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15287331665663294579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927549938621243783.post-61767790297003267012012-07-25T19:16:39.086-07:002012-07-25T19:16:39.086-07:00I wanted to clarify that I'm not against Batma...I wanted to clarify that I'm not against Batman having romances in his movies, but because, in this one, he's so consumed with falling apart and redefining himself, it seemed the wrong time to try and insert a romantic plot.The Inquisitive Loonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12353365796160933651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927549938621243783.post-42607250216878896542012-07-25T19:12:33.006-07:002012-07-25T19:12:33.006-07:00Ah, I forgot about that point. Never mind the fact...Ah, I forgot about that point. Never mind the fact that escaping the radius of a nuclear explosion within thirty seconds is well nigh impossible. Never mind the radiation that'll wash up on Gotham's shores for decades afterward. Hah!<br /><br />I actually was a bit disapproving of Batman having romantic entanglements in this movie, at least with regard to how it happens in the comics. In the comics, Talia sleeps with Batman and becomes pregnant with his baby because she (and Ra's) believe him to be a worthy successor in commanding the League of Shadows. But this is before he turns on them because their methods are too harsh. By that logic, it would make more sense for their romantic entanglement to have happened in Batman Begins.<br /><br />However, because this is after Batman has killed Ra's (or "allowed him to die".. whatever) it is completely antithetical to Talia's character to seduce Batman. What's the point? Why sleep with someone you secretly hate with all of your power? This puzzled me. She doesn't need to get close to him for his fingerprints; they already have that through the mercenary actions. It certainly enhances the sense of betrayal, but that's a little ridiculous to hate someone so much that you'd insert yourself into their lives as a love interest just so you can smash that impression to pieces in front of them.<br /><br />As for Catwoman, she just seems so detached and independent in this movie that I personally thought that her 'romance' with Batman didn't feel real. The problem that affects both romances, and especially Catwoman's, is that Batman is so wrapped up in his own inner turmoil that he just isn't there 100%. You could argue that that works in Talia's favor because she's able to take advantage of him while he's vulnerable, but then you get back to the fact of why she's doing it in the first place. With Catwoman, they just don't have enough moments together for it to feel legitimate. When they showed her with her cutpurse friend, I honestly thought she was a lesbian (because there is precedent in some Batman comics and because she'd seemed so hostile to Bruce Wayne/Batman).<br /><br />Long story short, Talia and Batman was believable but with questionable motivation. And Catwoman + Batman didn't sell me because of too few 'moments' for them, the whole betraying him to Bane thing, and because of her general hostility throughout the movie towards just about everyone. Maybe repeated viewings will change this for me; after all, I still think this was a great movie, and the romance aspect of it was one thread of MANY.The Inquisitive Loonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12353365796160933651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927549938621243783.post-32472890518478870032012-07-25T18:23:17.901-07:002012-07-25T18:23:17.901-07:00The pieces to the "death of batman" puzz...The pieces to the "death of batman" puzzle come pretty quick in succession, but Morgan Freeman finds out after the explosion that the autopilot was in fact fixed by Bruce Wayne himself months before the incident. It seems that Batman convinced everyone that he was making a noble sacrifice and faked his own death, presumably bailing partway over the bay, then showed up at the spot in Vienna where he knew Alfred went to take his vacation to let him know that he was still alive. (Never mind that a 4 megaton explosion would have created massive fallout and probably engulfed the city in a tidal wave, a fact which is never addressed in the movie.) The end reminded me of The Iron Giant. Have you seen that movie?<br /><br />What do you think about the aspect of Bruce Wayne/Batman's romantic entanglements in this movie? Do you think Catwoman is the right woman for him (in this iteration)?CarpeCyprinidashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02859577488849586091noreply@blogger.com